In this episode I am joined by Thomas Huebl, spiritual teacher, author, and international facilitator whose work integrates the core insights of mysticism with the discoveries of science.
When Thomas’ team contacted me to interview Thomas about his new book, Healing Collective Trauma, I was very interested to read Thomas’ thoughts on this emerging area.
In this interview Thomas shares his spiritual biography, including his time in Vienna training as a medical doctor, and his four-year meditation retreat in the Czech Republic.
Thomas goes into detail about his intellectual influences, his spiritual insights, and his twenty years of group facilitation work.
Thomas also discusses the challenges of combining evidence based scientific work in the field of trauma and psychology with the subjective authority of the mystic’s personal experience.
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0:00 – Intro
0:52 – Why did Thomas write this book?
3:11 – Early influence of the work of Ken Wilber and Wilhelm Reich, and which books and workshops influenced Thomas?
9:38 – Why did Wilhelm Reich so resonate with Thomas?
12:20 – Kriya yoga, Sri Aurobindo, and Thomas on time
15:30 – Rewriting history and integrated ancestry
21:45 – Thomas’ personal resonance with Jewish spirituality, Tibetan Buddhism, and Daoism
25:15 – What does Thomas specifically like about Tibetan Buddhism and has he met any masters of that tradition?
27:26 – How Thomas began to access higher dimensions of consciousness
36:00 – Mixing spiritual language with scientific and psychological language
40:31 – Spirituality or science as the over-arching narrative?
42:07 – Why doesn’t Thomas reference specific wisdom traditions in his book?
50:03 – What is the source of authority for Thomas’ spiritual claims?
51:18 – Thomas as his own authority
51:43 – Why does Thomas’ consider it necessary to include his spiritual material alongside his psychological group process work?
1:00:57 – Why no clinical or anecdotal outcomes included in the book?
1:06:42 – Thomas’ critique of encounter groups
1:11:50 – Work being done to verify the efficacy of the CTIP process
1:13:38 – The impact of trauma on the systemic and societal level
1:15:37 – Thomas’ positive vision for what society could be
1:20:19 – Thomas’ websites and NGO
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Music ‘Deva Dasi’ by Steve James